Luggage fabric

2023-09-01 03:21:58

billstatler@forum.statler.ws

I'm shopping for luggage and am confronted with "600 Denier nylon" and "1200 Denier polyester" and whatnot. So I discovered this rather good overview of backpack (and luggage) fabrics. (Enjoyable writing style, too.)

(This is aimed at a US audience, where we use "denier" to measure linear density of a fiber. It is the weight in grams of 9 kilometers of fiber. This is the closest Americans will ever get to the metric system. The rest of the world uses the "tex", which is the weight in grams of 1 kilometer of fiber.)

The Definitive Guide that You Never Wanted: Backpack Fabrics

...what are the benefits and drawbacks of nylon and polyester? What do all these abbreviations stand for? How did I end up reading Wikipedia for the last 3 hours? What is the answer to the ultimate question of life?…

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2023-09-01 07:26:09

*_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

@Bill Statler While you're at it also check for PFAS, maybe.

2023-09-01 20:37:56

Hans

hans@hubzilla.hopto.org

Often fabrics are not treated with pfas materials. They do offer it.

2023-09-01 21:04:09

Hans

hans@hubzilla.hopto.org

Then again, raincoats and sort a like stuff might have it.

I know they offer a spray when you buy new shoes and that does contain PFAS

2023-09-01 21:06:52

*_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

@｛Hans｝ I guess you've got to ask for that info, though.

2023-09-01 21:09:29

Hans

hans@hubzilla.hopto.org

And hope they are able to answer it, I doubt they will be able to.

2023-09-01 21:16:05

*_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

@｛Hans｝ Well, so more people need to ask, until they feel it in their sales counts.

2023-09-01 21:22:39

Hans

hans@hubzilla.hopto.org

@_jayrope This is b.t.w. big news in the Netherlands. There is a chemical plant called Chemours that has been dumping PFOA ( another pfas ) in the water of major rivers for years. They tried to buy it off with a few million but wanted not more fuzz after it. They did not succeed.

Currently, they tested chicken eggs in the area ( some 50 km away) and found that eating one egg gives a person more pfas that advised/allowed. This stuff is going to give an awful lot of problems in the future ( cancer and other serious issues ).

2023-09-01 21:29:38

*_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

@｛Hans｝ Ha, yeah, and lots of eggs over here are from the Netherlands, too. However, the stuff is all over the place. I recently looked into a countryside myth, freinds of mine moved upnorth to live near the Polish border/Baltic Sea and while visiting they told me not to drink the tab water. It is all countryside so i wasn't sure why they say that. And they couldn't explain it. Back in Berlin i found home, that the river next door was obviously PFAS poisoned, but no official statement was made about that. I actually only foudn the points of measurement, because the Guardian had posted a map in spring. German authorities do not say anythign abotu their measurements. Obviosuly the problem is way too big to talk about it publicly.

2023-09-01 21:34:22

Hans

hans@hubzilla.hopto.org

@_jayrope Ouch, although it does sound logical. Rivers flush it away, they think, and once in international water it can't be seen as evidence anymore. They do forget it is on the river banks too.

Hell, I am already sick enough, but let's stop this so future generations are somehow able to work around it. It will not disappear.

2023-09-01 21:35:06

Hans

hans@hubzilla.hopto.org

Sorry to mess with your topic @Bill Statler

2023-09-01 23:06:05

Bill Statler

billstatler@forum.statler.ws

All topics connect to all other topics, @｛Hans｝ :-)

2023-09-02 23:17:56

hosh

hosh@hub.vikshepa.com

Very good article, though maybe most of us don't need the absolute best quality gear - the cheap backpack I bought two or three years ago is still holding out well, though I have carried it on my back for several weeks and lugged it on and off buses, planes and trains. I don't remember what it's made of - it's just a 40 liter no-name product (re-branded as "Icebridge" by a local company).

2023-09-03 05:49:43

Cyborg 2-A ✅

wago@rumbly.net

I use a few bags from the 1970's that show no wear and some new bags i bought cheap because new expensive bags break and fall apart in a year anyway.

2023-09-03 21:26:22

Hans

hans@hubzilla.hopto.org

This post reminds me of the first time I started to work as a sailor. Was on my way back home and had a military bag, "Pjunlebaal" in Dutch, on my shoulder. At the local train station, I bumped into my old German Teacher, and she asked me if I joined the army. I flunked high school due to being bored and explained I was a sailor. Told her where I travelled, and she had a big smile on her face.

The travel gear was heavy b.t.w. but it lasted forever indeed.

2023-09-04 22:58:29

hosh

hosh@hub.vikshepa.com

From the 70's I kept for a long time one of those backpacks with an external wire frame - stupid and uncomfortable, they were. The tent I bought from the same era lasted decades, and I still have the down sleeping bag.