_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

Composer, music player/coder/worker, radio, diy instruments - much in performanc arts and dance

Homepage:: https://jayrope.com

Sat, 03 Jun 2023 18:06:57 +0200 last edited: Sat, 03 Jun 2023 21:02:50 +0200

_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

New album: Live percussion & electronics works 2021-2023 ->

Hyper City Garden

https://jayrope.bandcamp.com/album/hyper-city-garden

My 11th solo album presents the current state of works with live percussion in conjunction with live electronics (2021-2023).
This is quick music, and quickly changing at times.
It's alive, and it's a fight.

Dedicated to and supporting Marina 122, an artist house in Barcelona. Fine souls hosted me there to work on Hyper City Garden and other projects twice.
The city demolishes the place now, as we speak.

Resist and Enjoy

P.S.: Boost/reshare is appreciated. Thank you.

#extramusic #hypercity #gardenmusic #marina122 #resist

@electronicmusic group @radicalmusic group @Synths group @composers@a.gup.pe @Puredata @puredata group

extramusic release percussion live electronics

Fri, 02 Jun 2023 21:29:29 +0200 last edited: Fri, 02 Jun 2023 21:30:16 +0200

_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

Micro science fiction, robot, human, killing someone

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Hyper city garden music - Marina 122 - Solarpunk

Fri, 02 Jun 2023 13:09:53 +0200 last edited: Fri, 02 Jun 2023 13:40:29 +0200

_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

Marina 122 garden music.

Lush artist spaces like Marina 122 in Barcelona have a massive influence on the extent of your imagination and freedom of your art.

While i was there in September 22 i could imagine this, hyper city garden music.

https://open.audio/library/tracks/385863/

Right now Marina 122 gets taken down despite strong local citizen opposition.
Instead massive gentrification, driven by city politics, supporting money tourism and yachts, demolish open spaces rather than leaving them open in support of their own living artist scene.

A next door restaurant, which was planned to be taken down as well, was allowed to stay, because it is owned by millionaires, only making more money there.

https://marina122.net

tuti marina122 jardin nervous garden.jpg

#extramusic #marina122 #demolotion #artistspace #barcelona #citypolitics #gentrification #actnow #solarpunk

Marina 122 percussion puredata field recording extramusic solarpunk

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Fri, 02 Jun 2023 13:39:37 +0200 last edited: Fri, 02 Jun 2023 13:39:56 +0200

_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

@Harald Eilertsen Unfortunatly it is highly unlikely for these artists to find a similar inner city space. Let me know if you have any ideas!

Fri, 02 Jun 2023 13:41:23 +0200

Harald Eilertsen

harald@hub.volse.no

@_jayrope I understand that, but one can still hope!

Fri, 02 Jun 2023 13:42:20 +0200 last edited: Fri, 02 Jun 2023 13:42:53 +0200

_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

@Harald Eilertsen We hoped :) (already - city government rejected all good thought)

Fri, 02 Jun 2023 12:39:53 +0200 last edited: Fri, 02 Jun 2023 13:47:42 +0200

_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

Demolición: A partir de este momento, la casa de artistas de 22 años situada en el número 122 de la calle de la Marina de Barcelona está siendo desalojada por el ayuntamiento y una política de construcción ignorante de los artistas.

ES VICIO ES ALQUILER.

La lista de partidarios de la casa está aquí:

https://www.marina122.net/marina/simpatic

Todo apoyo ayuda, especialmente la documentación fotográfica y de vídeo. A partir de ahora. Gracias.

@Radio Web MACBA @Carme Pont

Fri, 02 Jun 2023 12:10:14 +0200 last edited: Fri, 02 Jun 2023 12:16:25 +0200

_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

#followerpower -> Das passiert jetzt: Kunst- und Tanzfreunde der Marina 122 in Barcelona wurden heute früh von Abrißarbeitern geweckt. Die lezten Fünf nach einer Räumung im Herbst verbliebene Künstler:innen und Tänzer:innen sitzen ab sofort auf der Strasse.

Gegen massiven Widerstand von Anwohnern & Künstler:innen lässt die Stadt ein international besuchtes Künstlerhaus mit Garten, Ateliers, Tanzräumen, Gästplätzen und Lebensraum ab sofort abreißen.

Falls Ihr in Barcelona Künstlr:innen und Tänzer:innen kennt, leitet diese Info bitte weiter. Ort:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/7636422677#map=19/41.39640/2.18521

Dokumentation und Protest werdn herzlich erbeten!

Alles Weitere hier

https://www.marina122.net/

und hier auf Englisch

https://hub.kliklak.net/hq/b64.aHR0cHM6Ly9odWIua2xpa2xhay5uZXQvaXRlbS83OWY4M2Q0OS0yNGM3LTRiN2UtOGYzMC1iMTRhYjhjMDkzOWU

Dank!
@podo @ɟloʍ

#Barcelona #Künstlerhaus #Abriß

Fri, 02 Jun 2023 18:45:12 +0200 last edited: Fri, 02 Jun 2023 18:45:27 +0200

_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

@podo Damn. Thanks Pod. What happens, when you click that?

Fri, 02 Jun 2023 11:25:24 +0200 last edited: Fri, 02 Jun 2023 13:35:23 +0200

_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

Artists loosing 22-year artist space in Barcelona RIGHT NOW.

Please forward to Catalan friends. #followerpower por favor!

Today, early in the morning, a demolition company called by the Barcelona city government, started taking down the artist house Marina122 - Casa Gay - at Carrer de la Marina 122.

Am very sad to hear this.

5 remaining artists & dancers are now homeless after 22 years of breathing soul into this marvellous place. Numerous artworks, custom costumes and other belongings are being destroyed as well.

http://marina122.net

The loss of this space is no compliment to Barcelona, which likes to emphasize it's own art history, but fails to support their own artists today. Against the vocal opposition of locals in the quarter they are turning a 4-story warehouse, inspiring with ateliers, dance floors, living and guest spaces and an adjacent marvellous garden with it's own vegetable beeds, palms, pool into a

concrete platform and ramp to access a nearby park.

Many people living in the barrio have massively voiced their opposition to the city architects' plans during public presentations of the project. They were completely ignored.
Barcelona continues to transform into a museum of itself, having anything ready in glass boxes, instead of fostering its living artist communities.
This is a desaster.
I have stayed & worked there twice before. A paradise lost.

If anyone local feels inclined, go there now! Take images & videos and voice your opposition.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/7636422677#map=19/41.39640/2.18521

Es vicio es alquiler!

@podo @Radio Web MACBA @^

Marina 122 gentrification

Fri, 02 Jun 2023 09:25:46 +0200 last edited: Fri, 02 Jun 2023 09:29:43 +0200

_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

Antiwerbung: Die Frauenfußballbundesliga heißt bald "Google Pixel Frauen-Bundesliga".
Artikel auf Spiegel Online.
Digitale Aktivierungsrechte, Pixel-Werbung.
Ich geh dann mal Tischtennis spielen ;)

#lang_de #antiwerbung #frauenfussball

Fri, 02 Jun 2023 09:44:02 +0200

Raeuber

Raeuber@muenchen.social

@jrp Dem Fussball der Frauen tut es sicher gut, wenn Werbepartner ihn für sich entdecken.
Ich bin generell kein Fan von kommerziellen Sportveranstaltungen, ob das nun Fussball oder Leichtathletik ist, aber wenn die Sichtbarkeit und die Vergütung der Akteure steigen sollen, gibt's keinen besseren Weg. Und der Name "Google Pixel Frauen-Bundesliga" ist schrecklich genug, dass ich wieder weiß, warum ich das alles nicht brauche.

Fri, 02 Jun 2023 09:44:46 +0200

Raeuber

Raeuber@muenchen.social

@jrp was ich eigentlich sagen will: Chill mal, is doch nur Fußball 😂

Fri, 02 Jun 2023 09:47:28 +0200 last edited: Fri, 02 Jun 2023 10:38:31 +0200

_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

@Raeuber Stimmt, ich schaue eh keinen Fußball. Jede Werbepartnerschaft die mir ihren Namen ins Gesicht schreit, kann mir gestohlen bleiben ;) Schade für die Frauen.

Fri, 02 Jun 2023 09:12:20 +0200

_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

Fly, Friday, fly.
Up ↗
up ↗ .. ➰ .. ➿
to the sky 💫

Kplx wrote the following post Fri, 02 Jun 2023 07:31:57 +0200

Es ist Freitag #Freitagsfliege

illustration

Wed, 31 May 2023 20:38:51 +0200

_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

Does #Streams have nomadic identity ?
Can i clone my channel?
Does it install on shared hosts?
Are the filters working, without affecting comments and DM?
Can i block boosts/reshares?
Can i import #Hubzilla contacts?
Can i have notes to my contacts?

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Thu, 01 Jun 2023 00:56:48 +0200

Jupiter Rowland

jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu

So much I can tell you: #Streams has #NomadicIdentity, and it's said to work better with #ActivityPub than on #Hubzilla, but at the cost of just about all other connectors to the outside world. (streams) doesn't even support #RSS anymore.

So yes, you can clone your channel. You can even clone a Hubzilla channel to (streams), of course only the features that both have. For example, I couldn't take my wiki with me to (streams).

What you can't do is clone a (streams) channel to Hubzilla. Hubzilla's Zot/6 simply doesn't understand certain features of (streams)' Zot/11 a.k.a. Nomad.

As for the filters, I think they're largely identical to those on Hubzilla due to never having been tested and evaluated under real-life conditions.

As for the rest, I don't know. I've never used (streams), and I don't feel like creating an experimental (streams) channel just to see what it's like.

Thu, 01 Jun 2023 07:53:50 +0200

mike

mike@macgirvin.com

The filters have been tested but are not selective. What this means is that if you want to filter a friend who typically uses a word you despise, say 'rickhead', we will filter out anything you receive from that connection containing that word. It doesn't matter if it's a post, comment, DM, boost, article, poll, or event. If it has the word rickhead in it, you aren't going to see the activity.

If you only want the filter to work some of the time, you'll have to write the code to select when you want the filter to work and when it should be broken.

Thu, 01 Jun 2023 08:27:54 +0200 last edited: Thu, 01 Jun 2023 22:23:18 +0200

_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

@mike That was my point: Selective filter scope (not time).

The NS FW add-on used as a general filter gives me better options there, as at least i can see a note incl. the poster and the term the post was filtered for.

So a filtered DM/comment by a friend can still be noticed.

The major drawback of the existing channel filter options are
the lack of scope, and
the lack of any notification whatsoever in a stream, that a filtering has happened at all.

Unfortunately that makes them next to unusable atm.

I hate saying that, but Masodon has a well working filter implementation, which we could learn from. One big reason, why people like using it.

Thu, 01 Jun 2023 20:42:48 +0200

Hans

hans@federate.hopto.org

@Jupiter Rowland

One of the posts of @_jayrope made me think about your statements about the filters (and / or). It seems he is exploding the keywords so that is an or filter. Maybe it would be possible to have an indicator for the user filter where you can at least pick AND or OR to apply to the filter. the the replacement of \r\n\ like Mario stated could be replaced by " || " or " && "

Just a brainwave b.t.w.

Thu, 01 Jun 2023 21:25:21 +0200

Jupiter Rowland

jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu

@Hans Mario told me that conditional filtering is technically possible, but not implemented as of now.

Maybe I should latch onto the issue @_jayrope has filed and elaborate it, maybe that helps get conditional filtering implemented.

Of course, UI switches for what shall be filtered would be more convenient. Less flexible, but more convenient, they'd require less documentation, and they'd be newbie-friendlier.

Thu, 01 Jun 2023 21:33:25 +0200

Hans

hans@federate.hopto.org

@Mario Vavti Would that be worth looking at?

Thu, 01 Jun 2023 22:00:23 +0200

Hans

hans@federate.hopto.org

@Jupiter Rowland To be honest I do have some thoughts about filters in general. I think it should be possible to keep them in one place and simply tag users for those filters (a bit like adding users to a privacy group).

Thu, 01 Jun 2023 22:27:55 +0200

Jupiter Rowland

jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu

@Hans That'd be an improvement, too. I mean, I have over 400 followers, most of whom I'm going to filter in some way when it becomes possible to reduce the uninteresting clutter on my streams.

Thu, 01 Jun 2023 22:29:34 +0200

_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

@Hans Everything users need for fluent operation is worth looking at :)

Thu, 01 Jun 2023 22:32:11 +0200

Hans

hans@federate.hopto.org

@Jupiter Rowland Suppose it depends on the what followers like. I am ok with what I have at this moment and to be honest I would not need a better one. That stated I must admit that my rules are mostly topic based.

Thu, 01 Jun 2023 22:34:23 +0200

Hans

hans@federate.hopto.org

@_jayrope True, but we are mostly technical

Thu, 01 Jun 2023 22:38:01 +0200 last edited: Thu, 01 Jun 2023 22:40:46 +0200

_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

@Hans Imagine i would send you a direct message, which has important private content, but gets filtered because it contains one of your filter terms.
Or imagine you commented on a thread of mine, but your message never arrives to my thread display because it has hit a word filter.
In both cases we would need a small notification (only that) mentioning the poster and the filtered term only with an eye icon next to it - as a placeholder for th mssag or comment not shown. You could click on it and then see my complete DM and our conversation could continue.

In Mastodon this looks like this, without poster name

Thu, 01 Jun 2023 22:41:48 +0200 last edited: Thu, 01 Jun 2023 22:43:06 +0200

Hans

hans@federate.hopto.org

@_jayrope I think that would depend on how filters are working. I once had shooting in my filters (due to mass shootings at schools) and @Tanja noticed it was filtered. The real question then is if it is stored locally or denied at on the delivery process

Thu, 01 Jun 2023 22:47:52 +0200

_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

@Hans A normal user has neither interest nor need to look at a delivery report. While i appreciate this info myself sometimes i think this is only use by specialized people. And much too long to read.
More importantly an idea like that only works, when the other party already wrote to you asking if you had seen their message. All that is unnecessary with properly working filters.

Thu, 01 Jun 2023 22:52:56 +0200

Hans

hans@federate.hopto.org

@_jayrope I am not sure about that. I am very well aware and try to think about my filters but did mess up on that one. Tanja knows me (from the internet) and tried to give me some tips for shooting pictures and was able to see if it was posted or rejected (filtered).That is why she started using other words in a reply to me so I would notice. The delivery report is of value once you use it.

Thu, 01 Jun 2023 22:53:53 +0200

_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

@Hans Yes, like i said.

Thu, 01 Jun 2023 22:59:04 +0200

Hans

hans@federate.hopto.org

Thu, 01 Jun 2023 23:01:09 +0200

_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

@Hans That's what i said: If i had a notifcation of a filtered post to click on to see the original content i have a quick way of checking, without anyone having to get back to me asking if i saw their message.

Thu, 01 Jun 2023 23:04:56 +0200

Hans

hans@federate.hopto.org

In my filters that would mean my stream is showing something like that an awfull lot, would not like that

I simply filter (as an example) the names of certain politicians simply since I am not interested in them on this platform. Try your filter on such a solution once elections are coming

Thu, 01 Jun 2023 23:10:48 +0200

mike

mike@macgirvin.com

W/R/T selective filtering - If you're a bank guard and only work on Wednesdays, guess when your bank is going to get robbed? Hint: It probably won't be a Wednesday.

In fact my solution to this very problem was instead of deleting messages that failed the filter, give you the option to put them into the moderation queue instead of removing them and possibly adding an expiration where they would auto-delete if you didn't do anything with them in the moderation queue after a week or three. I brought this up a few weeks back

https://macgirvin.com/item/f0ffc53d-8070-4e74-b2da-53332aa32f99

I was ready to start coding it, but based on the lackluster response I decided it wasn't worth the effort.

Thu, 01 Jun 2023 23:11:18 +0200

_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

@Hans It worked fine in Mastodon ;)

Thu, 01 Jun 2023 23:19:47 +0200

Hans

hans@federate.hopto.org

@mike I must admit I am very happy with filters that simply block at the front-door to be honest.

I started to introduce rbl's at companies and I can state they are very care-full and suspicious into starting to do it. I am very much in favor of simply denying a post and have maybe the url stored of the message, then let the user item show a white (in red) remark sign to show things go wrong if the choose to see them.

The companies had 2 calls b.t.w. Both offices of spamming companies.

Fri, 02 Jun 2023 00:09:08 +0200

mike

mike@macgirvin.com

Testing now.

Fri, 02 Jun 2023 00:19:22 +0200

Jupiter Rowland

jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu

Fri, 02 Jun 2023 01:04:13 +0200

mike

mike@macgirvin.com

Over 200 new posts in my moderation queue. I'm guessing it works. Now to turn it off. I wrote the message filter because I didn't want to look at this crap. Ever.

Fri, 02 Jun 2023 01:26:00 +0200

mike

mike@macgirvin.com

First I've heard of it so that's an accurate assessment. If you want stuff, it does help sometimes to ask for it. I would still be hesitant to provide message-type specific filters because I built streams around ease of use and tried my best to hide complexity and cognitive shock and that requirement kind of blows it out of the water.

Fri, 02 Jun 2023 09:06:41 +0200

Jupiter Rowland

jupiter_rowland@hub.netzgemeinde.eu

That's why there's also the suggestion to add e.g. an "Only filter posts" UI switch instead of doing that through syntax that won't be documented anyway. Or a maximum of three switches for posts, comments and DMs.

Fri, 02 Jun 2023 09:17:39 +0200 last edited: Fri, 02 Jun 2023 09:18:02 +0200

_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

@Jupiter Rowland @Hans @mike

Wed, 31 May 2023 16:44:47 +0200 last edited: Wed, 31 May 2023 16:45:58 +0200

_jayrope

jrp@hub.kliklak.net

@modular group @modularsynth group What's your favourite direct sounding #pitch changer (dedicated module, if possible) for #Eurorack? Like no or few extras, big knobs. (No 2HP, please)

#Echophon's nice, but often too rough for my taste and some built-in half-note pitch control is missing. I also have a Lexicon PCM80 from the 90s, which sounds way better, actually, as well as two CT5 guitar pedals by Montreal Assembly, which work nice for pitch, too. So, just asking what you use.

Thanks in advance.

#pitchchanger